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Louis-Hector Berlioz (1803-1869) by Gustave Courbet, 1850 |
(Excerpt: 20 October 1954, Questions and Answers, CWM, Vol 6, Pg 379)
(Silence)
Nothing more? Do you have another question?
Regarding the film we saw, what is the place of suffering in artistic creation?
The film?
We saw that through suffering…
Oh, oh, oh, oh!... the film about Berlioz?
His music matured through suffering…
Yes, yes, so what place...? Where does it come from?
Suffering—how does it help artistic creation?
How does it help? That depends on people. Some people are very powerfully helped by it. I consider that man one of the purest expressions of music. It is almost... I could say that he is an incarnation of music, of the spirit of music. Unfortunately, his body was a little frail; that is, he did not have that solid base which yoga gives, for instance. So this shook him up too much and made him too emotional, nervous, agitated, and emotive. You see, it was a serious weakness. But from the point of view of creation, I have always felt—and the other day it was very very strong—that truly he was in contact with the spirit of music, you know, the very meaning of music, and that this entered into him with such a force that it shook him up; but truly, truly he was like an incarnation of music.
The notion that it was suffering that made him create is purely human; it is not true. What, on the contrary, is very very remarkable is—to turn the thing around—that there was no physical pain which was not instantaneously translated into music in him; that is, the spirit of music was much stronger than human pain, and each blow which he received from life—and as he was indeed too sensitive to have the power of resisting, he was shaken—all the same, instantly, it was translated into music. It is something very rare.
People—all creators—usually require a little... how shall I put it? ... time and quietness to be able to begin creating again, while with him it was spontaneous. The painful blow brought musical expression instantaneously. Truly for him his whole life began with music and finished with music. It was music, and it was a... he had such a sincerity and such an exclusive intensity in his attachment to music that I feel that the spirit of music expressed itself through him. Perhaps what he has written is not the most beautiful music because of that kind of weakness of what we call the “adhara” here. He was... his physical make-up was a little too weak. But from the point of view of music, it is very beautiful, very beautiful. (Silence) And even with his power, he had a very great simplicity. There is a kind of limpidity of line in what he has written, with a very great technical knowledge, of course. His power of orchestration was very, very remarkable. When one can orchestrate something for six hundred performers, it means a science as complicated as the most complicated mathematics. And in fact they come very close.
- The Mother
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